Also a reply to gbw499: Sorry if I came off as harsh, I didn’t mean to bad mouth pants in any way! Not only would it be highly hypocritical given that I’m running pants here, but I also really really really like it.
The mass market, whatever or whoever that is, will never be interested in Pants. People generally want things to be convenient first, good second; even if they claim something else, just like everyone complaining about how shitty WhatsApp is, but still keep using it (Disclaimer: I use WhatsApp and generally have no beef with it.)
I think this is the underlying issue at play. Although I don’t think that really is an issue, I personally prefer a car that is convenient to use for me, but I don’t mind putting some effort into setting up and maintaining pants on my server. I think it’s really easy to drift into an elitist kind of thinking over this, or an us vs them mentality, but I think it really boils down to where people put their priorities.
Pants works, it might be more niche than Twitter, but its not a dead duck in the water without anyone using it. And I think similar projects can succeed and thrive as well. Heck, I wouldn’t even go as far as saying that pants or similar projects can’t or won’t ever bring in a dime, I do believe that a Facebook like IPO is not going to happen, but I don’t think there is much in the way of being profitable. Look at the BSD flavours out there, people pay/donate for projects they personally like, or look at the various other open and ideologically driven projects.
As for my personal opinion, I agree with a lot of what you said, I just think that this isn’t just a black/white thing where things like Pants are right and Twitter is wrong. I also thought it was amusing that I very much love my pants instance but go out at day and work on something that is almost the polar opposite from and ideological standpoint.
I don’t care how mass marketable Pants is. To me, it’s the best thing ever, and I can’t be stopped.
Good. Last but not least, it is your project and since you are investing time and work into it, you should be who gets the most joy out of creating it.
The good news is that things aren’t looking nearly as bleak as I once made them out to be. The big new version of Pants that I’m working on is shaping up nicely.
This is very very exciting to hear! Is there any way to support you without contributing code to the project? I don’t know any Ruby and I have no idea about RoR, and quite frankly not the time to put work into yet another hobby project.